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For the final layer of the ground work I followed the advise of a friend and used household polishing crem as used for c...
1:72 Vought F4U-1D Corsair (Tamiya 60752)1:72 Bulldozer D7 (Orange Hobby G72-213-78)1:72 PSP Display Colour (Eduard 7720)9+
85 24 June, 12:26
Robert Podkoński
Taking my first-row seat here 😉
1  24 June, 12:31
Alec K
Right next to you Robert 👍
1  24 June, 22:17
Mark Sherwood
I can only afford the circle, in. 🤟🥸🤘
1  25 June, 08:00
Michael Kohl Author
Welcome all, mates. Happy to have you around. 🙂
 25 June, 09:10
Michael Kohl Author
As I suppose that one or two guys here are interested in this, I feel free to share the results of some research my friend Michael has done on interiour color of the Corsair.
I quote:
it is reasonable to believe that internal structures were painted Zinc-Chromat-Yellow (ZCY). Cockpits were colored "Dull Dark Green" (early F4U-1) and afterwards "Interior Green". This should apply to the inside of the engine cowlings too, but pictures with grey insides can be found as well. Wheel wells were probably coated in ZCY, but were often overpainted with the wing color, i. e. Seagloss Blue or for the ones with the 4 tone pattern in Insignia White. This applies to insides and outsides of the wheel well covers too.
End quote.

Although already a bit older and not including the latest findings the site from IPMS Stockholm is still of valuable help here:

ipmsstockholm.se/hom..raft-1941-45-part-i/

So I probably should have colored my cockpit a bit darker/greener while the rest still seems to be in line with history.
To add a bit of visual interest I colored the front part of the engine cowlings in grey while the rest "remained" ZCY and I will stick to ZCY for the inside of the wheel wells and the inside faces of the wheel well covers too.
To break up the monochromatic Gloss Sea Blue design I want to go for the 4-color-pattern at the engine cowling - as if it was replaced by one of an older plane.
Let´s see how this turns out...
1  25 June, 09:23
bughunter
If you have not yet been infected with AMS, we can now be sure that you are carrying this virus. And it cannot be treated, you can only live it out intensively.

In case someone do not know what AMS is: Advanced Modeling Syndrom.
4  25 June, 09:35
Zbynek Honzik
It looks very interesting!
1  7 July, 20:18
Timmie
Nice work on the engine an cowling. Following
1  9 July, 16:17
Dave Flitton
Most excellent beginning! I will have to use this as a reference when I do more of my corsairs
1  9 July, 19:27
Michael Kohl Author
Thanks for your interest mates. There will be a longer break as holiday doesn't permit modelling. But - I'll be back. 🙂
1  9 July, 20:09
Thomas Haberl - (TH SCALE MODELS)
Missed the start of this one somehow 🙈 great progress so far Michael 👌
1  24 August, 10:58
Nicolas
Missed this one too. Great work so far. 👍
1  24 August, 11:19
Alec K
Very nice progress on this project Michael 👍
1  25 August, 12:32
Michael Kohl Author
Welcome my friends. Looks like non-modelling distractions will be less from next week on. So I hope to progress a bit faster then.
2  25 August, 14:32
Michael Kohl Author
After the third time I found more flaws that I sanded and redid only to find another one or the preceding one not yet fixed appropriately I opted for a more general makeover and painted the whole plane in a lighter shade of blue. So, quite a bit of work got into it but looks pretty much the same.
 5 September, 09:52
Mark Sherwood
Your figures, something else. Great progress on the build Michael. 👍🥸🤟
1  5 September, 11:22
bughunter
Wow, the figures in 1:72! I'd be happy if I could manage that in 1:48.
2  5 September, 12:36
Robert Podkoński
The pilot's figure looks fantastic!
1  5 September, 13:28
Michael Kohl Author
Thanks folks for you nice feedback. Happy that you like the little guy.
 7 September, 12:58
Guy Rump
Looking great, following. 👍
1  7 September, 14:48
Alec K
Solid progress, the figures do look great 👍
1  8 September, 12:38
Jakub Fiala
Very nice work so far, Michael! Following.
1  9 September, 12:08
Michael Kohl Author
Hi guys welcome. A wee bit of a progress...
 9 September, 15:21
Michael Kohl Author
Well, while I tried to drink it into a beauty my mates have benn less easy on it and pointed - rightly I'm afraid - to the color shade as much too light and greyish in appearance. When pondering options to fix this the suggestion came up to apply filters with bright blue. Said - done. Using prussion blue oil color heavily diluted with odorless thinner and VMS quick drying medium for oils I applied 4/5 layers of filter. This really brought life back into the colors. Next will be to blend the fabric areas even a bit more.
And the second figure is mostly done.
 12 September, 08:39
Mark Sherwood
Another tour de force on the figure, as Bughunter stated , I wish my 1.48 even my 1.35th looked as good. 👌🥸👍
2  12 September, 11:32
Finn
Missed this one but joining late...
1  19 September, 13:21
Michael Kohl Author
Thanks Mark.
Finn, welcome anytime.
 21 September, 09:02
Mark Sherwood
I like the understated look, Michael. 👍🥸👌
1  3 October, 16:51
bughunter
Absolutely authentic down to the last detail 👍
1  3 October, 16:54
Alec K
Very nice progress 👍
1  6 October, 14:33
Michael Kohl Author
Back on square 1. I was wrecking my brain on how to build the ground work in general and the PSP-area in particular. I couldn't figure out a promising way to lay down the bent mats without them floating in the air when glued on cardboard or soft ground unrealistingly protuding through the holes when put on plaster. So I skipped the idea of individual mats, removed the cardboard from the base and cut the polystyrene PSP-plate from Eduard to shape - not without breaking it in the process. Having finished this I didn't like the way too regular appearance of the board any better. Still struggeling for improvements I finally decided to cut off the bent hooks from the plates, place them on double sided tape on a newly cut Forex plate, drybrush it and fill the gaps n holes with pigments. So, finally I am confident that this might work the way I want it.
Probably it would have been better to finish the base completely and only then to color everything. Hmm, let's see whether I can incorporate my painted stuff in a way to keep the paintwork.
Ok, already beyond square 1 again - and now with a clear vision. My fingers itch to proceed but I probably have to bite my nails for another some two weeks before life permits further significant progress. Stay tuned.
2  13 October, 10:19
Łukasz Gliński
Very inspiring 👍 Fingers crossed
 21 October, 18:20
Michael Kohl Author
Thanks Lukasz, your crossed fingers are highly appreciated. I am anxious about how the ground work will turn out. I studied quite a few pictures of WW II scenes from the pacific theater and I have quite a clear vision how it should look.
1  28 October, 13:35
Daniel Klink
Voll cool 👍
 30 October, 23:37
Łukasz Gliński
Now I know who are these odd people collecting worthless leaves, stones and feathers while I walk my dog 😄
1  31 October, 08:39
gorby
Very nice work so far.
1  31 October, 08:54
Alec K
Excellent indeed Michael. I feel your pain with the ground work, one reason I have not done a complex base in, like, decades 😄
1  31 October, 12:53
Michael Kohl Author
Makes me happy and smile to read your comments. Nice to have you around.
The cracking of the terrain paste is quite a setback and I used some foul language directed at AK. I never liked the stuff in the first place and thought I could more or less use it up on this project, but it obviously fought back on me.
Any ideas for a remedy are welcome.
 3 November, 08:50
Robert Podkoński
Looks fabulous!
1  3 November, 12:14
Alec K
Holy mother of poop! Not sure that's salvageable mate. As to the cause, a very unqualified thought would be: too much liquid. 😫😭
1  3 November, 13:33
Michael Kohl Author
Well, that thought might not be that unqualified after all as I used water deliberately to achieve a smooth, sandlike surface.

And it will be salvaged for sure as the dozer is connected rock solid with it and I will do my very best and beyond not to discard it.
Stay with me.
1  3 November, 15:08
Alec K
Ah, well if the dozer can't be moved, salvaged it must be. Filling the voids with the same stuff may work, now that there is not that much of it to shrink. Fingers crossed!
1  4 November, 18:49
Timmie
Ohw brother. In last resort you can cut out the piece with dozer and paste it in a new base.
1  4 November, 21:08
Mark Sherwood
Bloody Hell! As above. Or rebuild if you want to go down the hairshirt route. It does remind me of a dried up river bed/ reservoir. Good luck Michael with whatever you do to rectify it.
1  4 November, 21:55
Michael Kohl Author
Thanks mates for your sympathy and advice. Here the actual state of affairs: In a midnight procedure I managed to pry the dozer loose with easily repariable damage (dozer blade disintegrated and severed) with not too much of terrain still stuck to the tracks. I even managed to salvage most of the japanese scrap. Then I stripped all the terrain back to the cardboard level. Then I watched some videos of how to apply the material properly. Then took a deep breath and went to sleep.
So now with a new day dawning I decided on my new old strategy. I will prep up my groundwork base with the same technique as before - but differently (cardboard for shaping the terrain, then Elmer-Glue soaked toiletpaper for the final shape and then I will use the same material again, but this time only for a thin final layer which is only stippled onto the base. This stuff is obviously not meant to be applied in thicker layers. I keep you updated.
4  5 November, 12:11
Michael Kohl Author
@Alec. That was my Plan a for Plan B. But now I will go for Plan b for Plan B. 😉
 5 November, 12:28
Alec K
👍 🙂
 5 November, 13:34
Spanjaard
I am sure you will fix it, and on the other hand, you you have a fantastic technique for some dios to be set in the desert or vey dry places.....
 5 November, 16:09
Michael Kohl Author
Back again and kickin. plan c of Plan B. I initially tried my intended approach with cardboard and soaked toiletpaper but that just didn't look right. I then remembered a big block of Das Pronto modelling clay - and then all the problems I encountered with it. So I watched all the videos there are, were and will be and found explainations and techniques to avoid my past failures. So here is stage one of my recovery using Das Pronto. A promising second start I dare say.

To those interested, some Das Pronto clay techniques in a nutshell:
Problem: Das doesn't stick to the surface and falls off when dry.
Solution: wet clay and/or surface and work the clay thoroughly onto it.

Problem: Das sticks to the surface when spread out.
Solution: wait a few minutes till it is dry to the touch. Use a tile, glass or metal surface to roll it out.

Problem: Das is dry.
Solution: wet it. It can be reactivated by simply adding water. Moist the surface of dry Das and you can add more layers/pieces with a propper bond.

Problem: Das cracks when drying
Solution 1: use thin layers. If thicker objects are needed wrap thin Das around a core of i. e. crumbled aluminum foil or pieces of foam or whatever.
Solution 2: prolong drying, i. e. by covering your work with a moist rag. Thus drying is more evenly and less/no cracks are formed.

Tip: have a moist rag at hand to wipe off dry clay from your hands and thus avoid them crumbs to ruin your flat surface

Heeding those advices I achieved what I was aiming for. Maybe it'll help one or two around here too.
3  14 November, 21:43
Spanjaard
looking really promising! great info by the way, thanks.
 14 November, 21:58
CaptGPF
Watching with interest!
 18 November, 02:33
Villiers de Vos
Very nice work so far. Inspiring.
 23 November, 15:53

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